but understand kim jong un is no longer going to be approached through sanctions or through any type of military action. it has to be something that's direct and threatens his control on -- jenna: you know, it's interesting, i know you're a student of history, you're a ph.d. in history as well -- along with being a general, which i think is pretty cool, and i like to bring it up. one of the things i was looking at when i was researching north korea is we actually don't have an official peace treaty with the country. we have an armistice agreement, but no peace treaty, and this is something that the north koreans want. how does that figure in to what's going on here, and how does that potentially give us some more tools to deal with north korea? >> well, remember, an armistice is not an uncommon thing. remember the first world war ended with an armistice capped with the treaty offer versaillea couple of years later. it works total benefit -- to the benefit of the north koreans not to translate this armistice into a peace treaty because they survive on a state of perpetual war with sou